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Cinnamon and KDE Inaccessible on Debian Jessie

Now that Debian Jessie is out and the net install CD gives the option of a number of desktops, I've been trying some for accessibility.

Without much hope I tried Cinnamon and KDE. Both are totally silent.

For KDE I don't know if there is something else that needs to be installed, like qt-at-spi or something. But I assume, and that is not always very wise, that the Debian team would have included that.

Next I'll try XFCE. I know LXDE is at least partly accessible but Mate feels so snappy I'll stick with that as my working desktop.